Ep. 190 Lion Taming: Finding Your Power in Negotiations
Episode Highlights
✅ Introduction to Lion Taming (00:00:00)
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Dr. Amy Vertrees introduces the “Lion Taming” master class on power and negotiation.
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Highlights her coaching program for women surgeons, helping them handle difficult colleagues, power dynamics, and negotiations.
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Defines BOSS as a suite of coaching and courses teaching crucial career skills often missing from surgical training.
✅ Who (or What) is the Lion? (00:02:08)
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“Lions” = Anyone who can harm your career, reputation, or confidence—senior colleagues, competitors, even patients.
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The most dangerous lions are sometimes the most powerless or wounded.
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Lion taming means:
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Finding your own power
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Managing those with power over you
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Acting despite fear
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Leading without formal authority
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✅ Stress Responses in Conflict (00:05:52)
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Workplace conflicts trigger strong emotions like anger, fear, shame, or sadness.
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These emotions often stem from being dismissed, interrupted, or undermined.
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Four stress responses: Fight, Flight, Freeze, Fawn.
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Lion taming often involves recognizing and managing the “fight” response.
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Lesson from Androcles & the Lion: understanding and soothing the “lion’s pain” can transform conflict into cooperation.
✅ New Approaches to Negotiation (00:12:15)
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Avoid using:
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The “Hammer” (intimidation)
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The “Armor” (withholding vulnerability)
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Instead, aim for:
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Honesty
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Genuine curiosity
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Emotional intelligence
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Insights from Kasia Urbaniak’s “Woman’s Guide to Power Unbound”:
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Dominance: Knowing and using your power
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Submission: Knowing what you want and influencing others to give it to you
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✅ Self-Discovery & Managing Lions (00:16:35)
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Crucial steps for effective negotiation:
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Know your strengths and weaknesses
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Understand what you truly want
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Believe in your capacity to achieve it
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Reduce the lion’s perceived threat by envisioning the best version of them.
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Negotiation isn’t purely logical—it’s driven by emotion and the sense of safety.
✅ Three Steps to Tame a Lion (00:25:20)
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Anchor: Create safety and stability within yourself.
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Align: Shift attention outward to engage strategically.
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Ask: Make a clear, powerful request.
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Recognize where your attention is:
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Inward focus = Submission
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Outward focus = Dominance
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✅ Power is Not a Threat—It’s a Tool (00:35:55)
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Power exists to influence, not intimidate.
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Dr. Vertrees encourages listeners to use their power for positive change.
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Power Negotiations course topics include:
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Identifying your needs
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Reading others’ needs
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Practical negotiation techniques
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Surviving high-stakes conversations
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The “CEO Self-Concept”: Think of yourself as your own business, making choices aligned with your mission and values.
✅ Coaching Program Details (00:41:33)
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Weekly live sessions
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Private podcast + Facebook group
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Email support
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Discounted 1:1 coaching calls
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Dr. Vertrees encourages potential clients to discuss fit before joining.
Action Items
📝 Visit bosssurgery.com to:
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Learn more about coaching
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Join the group program
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Access resources for negotiating and managing challenging dynamics
Quote of the Episode
“True confidence is the willingness to feel any negative emotion—and act anyway.”
— Dr. Amy Vertrees